Subject: Hersch Leib descendants - special report
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:43:19 +0200

I believe we have a solution regarding your mutual ancestor 
Hersch Leib of Rozdol.  To refresh your memories, Hersch Leib 
and his wife Sara had five sons we know of, born from 1860 
onwards:
Moshe who died as a teenager, Pinchas, Avraham, Samuel and 
Solomon.  (All four of these had daughters named Golde, so that is 
almost surely the mother of either Hersch Leib or Sara.)

Solomon's grave in NY says "...ben Israel Zvi Yehudah" and a 
memorial for Avraham who was killed in the Holocaust says "...ben 
Israel Zvi Aryeh."  We know, of course,  that Hersch=Zvi and Leib= 
Yehudah and Aryeh, so we have assumed that this is Hersch leib 
and that at some point the name Israel was added.  The various 
grandsons named after him are all Hersch Leib, without Israel.

That by way of background.

Today I spent an hour and a quarter at a yeshiva in Mea Shearim 
called Hibat Yerushalayim Kollel Galicia.  They received donations 
before the War from Galicia and have meticulous records of the 
donors, arranged by town.  I spent my limited time going over the 
Rozdol information, which contains just names and amounts 
donated, in a reasonably clear Hebrew script.  In cases where 
several people had the same name, the father's name appeared 
as well.  For some reason, the name Hersch was always written 
Hirsch in these records.

The Pickholz donors who appeared were as follows:
1. Hirsch ben Pinchas
2. Avraham ben Pinchas
3. Pinchas
4. Wolf, sometimes Zeev
5. Yitzhak
6. Moshe
7. Yenta
8. David
9. Avraham ben David
10. Hirsch ben Shemuel
11. Zvi
12. Avraham ben Hersch Leib

Pinchas disappears from the list at about the time that we know 
that Pinchas ben Hersch Leib died, so we have him identified.  The 
others listed as "ben Pinchas" are not his sons, but we know who 
they are.  Some of the others we do not know and can only 
speculate, tho we can generally do so with some basis.

I have listed Hirsch ben Shemuel separately from Zvi, because 
there seems to be a gap of several years between the 
disappearance of Hirsch and the appearance of Zvi.

But I want to tell you about number twelve, Avraham ben Hirsch 
Leib.  He is the one whose memorial says "...ben Israel Zvi 
ARYEH" and who has grandchildren living here.  Avraham was a 
wealthy man, so we can identify his contributions - several zlotys 
each time, not just kopecks.  He is listed in several different ways:
...ben Hirsch Leib
...ben Zvi Leib
...ben Zvi
...ben Zvi Yehudah
...ben Israel Zvi Yehudah

Never with Aryeh.  

That makes it 100% clear that Solomon's grave stone is correct in 
the use of Yehudah and that any subsequent use of the name 
Aryeh here is imprecise.

Aren't you glad you know that?

Israel P.

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