IZAK and FEIGE (MINKE) from ROZDOL
Is this one couple or are there several?
And if there are several, who are they?
So we seem to have documentation of five children of Isak and Feige-Minke
Pikholz in Rozdol: David (~1823), Abraham (~1826), Pinkas (1832), Hersch-Leib
(~1835) and Sara-Rivka. (We also have a 1829 birth record for Keila,
about whom we know nothing further.) These children, plus Nachman,
should be siblings.
|The Rozdol family known
as IF1 is headed by Hersch-Leib Pikholz and his wife Sara Rosenzweig.
According to Hersch-Leib's death certificate (27 November 1880), his parents
were Izak and Feige and he was forty-five years old when he died.
(We do not have a birth record for him, although we did commision a search
for any Pikholz birth records in the Lwow archives.) Sara was pregnant
when Hersch-Leib died.
Sara have a daughter Feige-Minke born in the mid or late 1850's.
They have no sons named Isak and their first grandson by that name is born
in about 1885.
Rozdol family known as IF2 is headed by the brother and sister
Sara-Rivka and Nachman Pikholz (spouses are Salomon Lerner, who is actually
called Pikholz on his own death certificate, and Hinde Segullim).
The relationship between Sara-Rivka and Nachman is known from
their grandson Izak who lived in the US. He knew that his father
was Nachman's son and his mother was Sara-Rivka's daughter. (Izak
died in 2003.)
We have several birth records for the children of Sara-Rivka and Salomon
(the partial one here is for Taube, born 1879) which show Sara-Rivka's
parents to be Izak and Feige or Feige-Minke. Sara-Rivka and Salomon
had a daughter Feige-Minke (1863) and Isaak (1871).
Nachman had a daughter (1858) named Feige and a son Yitzhak (born in
the 1860's). This is Nachman's death record from 1891.
It shows his age at death as 48, which means he was born 1842-3 - a bit
late for someone who was a father
in early 1858.
The other curious item here is that Nachman's parents are listed as
Tauby and Isak. Of course it is possible that if Nachman was indeed
Isak's youngest son, then Feige may have died and Isak remarried and had
Nachman with the second wife. However, that seems unlikely seeing
that Nachman named his first child Feige. More likely is that Feige
died when Nachman was very young and he raised by the second wife, so people
would have known him as the son of Taube. All that assumes that Nachman
was indeed younger than Isak's other known children. (It is also
possible that Feige indeed died and that Isak married a close relative
- her sister perhaps - which would explain why her name continued in the
|The Rozdol family known as IF3
is headed by Abraham Pikholz and Taube Krut. According to his death
certificate (14 April 1878), he was fifty-two years old and his parents
were Isak and Feige-Minke. Taube died less than a year later.
We have birth records for five children (1855-1870) and a birth year
(1849) for another. We have no idea about possible descendants for
four of the six. There is an Isak (b. 1902?) who may be a grandson
of Taube and Abraham. The one daughter of Taube and Abraham whose
family we know has no one named either Isak or Feige. The youngest son
of Avraham and Taube indeed had a daughter Feige.)
|The Rozdol family known as IF4 is headed by David Pikholz and Szerka
Kawa. According to his death certificate (15 March 1882), he was
fifty-nine years old and his parents were Isak and Feige. Szerka
died in 1888.
We have birth records for three sons, but do not know their families.
(In one case, we have a theory and that son had no son named Isak.
His own wife was Feige.) Other children of David and Szerka are Scheindel-Pesche
and Yitzhak, who would be older than the three for whom we have records.
|We also have a 1832 birth for Pinkas, to Isak and Fayga. I considered
that this is Pinkas from the family we call .Pinchas/Rachel,
but have now concluded that this is probably not the same person.
That Pinkas died 1900-1904 and records for those years are not yet available.
His death record when available should have age and parents' names, allowing
us to test this theory.
Keep in mind that the first Rozdol Pikholz couple is Pinkas and Sara-Rivka.
Pinkas died about 1825. We have documentation on two of their children,
one born 1807 and one born about 1818 (died 1883 at age sixty-five).
So it is reasonable that Isak is another son, older than the other two.
It is not reasonable to assume that David (b. 1823) is a great-grandson
of Pinkas, so his father Isak cannot be a grandson of Pinkas. (That
would require us to say that Pinkas and Sara-Rivka had a great-grandson
only five years after they themselves had a son.)
But things are not so simple. Here are the problems.
|July 1840, Sara
Rifka born to Isak and Feiga.
Sara born to Isig and Feyga.
These two birth records are in the right place chronologically, so there
is no indication of a late (re-)registration.
At only three months apart, there is no possibility that the first one
died and the second one was a later child of the same couple, given the
If Sara had been first, we might consider that the second registration
was a name correction (to Sara-Rifka) of the first registration, but we
know that the adult woman was know exclusively as Sara-Rivka, so the name
could not reasonably have been corrected from Sara-Rifka to Sara.
All this almost surely requires that we have two couples both named Isak
and Feige, in which case we neither can identify them nor can we know for
sure which child goes with which couple. Unless, of course, we can
find a reason simply to disregard one of the birth records.
However, even doing so would leave another problem. Note that on
the birth record of Taube above, we have a clear signature
of Isak Pikholz both in the column at the far right (bottom) and in the
third column from the left (top). Normally, we would think that this
is Sara-Rivka's father, in some honorary role. However, Sara-Rivka
and Salomon had a son named Isaak in 1871, so her father Isak cannot be
alive eight years later. Therefore, this guest must be someone else
with a prominent place in the family. (I will not consider that there
were two births - Sara and Sara-Rivka - both of who married men named
Salomon Lerner. That would be just too weird!)
There cannot be two Isak's who are both grandsons of Pinkas and Sara-Rivka
- the ages would be wrong, because it would again make David (b. 1823)
So what are the possibilities?
I am open to other suggestions. Following is a table summarizing
what we know about the Izak-Feige children.
Pinkas and Sara-Rivka had a son Isak who married Feige and a daughter Feige
who married Isak, both families going by Pikholz. In this case, it
would appear that David, Sara-Rivka and Nachman would be descended from
the Isak who died in the early 1850's, while Pinkas, Hersch-Leib, Sara
(who may not have survived childhood) and maybe Abraham were from the Isak
who was still alive in 1879. But of course, we can only speculate.
Sara-Rivka's guest Isak would be her uncle.
Pinkas and Sara-Rivka had a son Isak and a grandson Isak, both of whom
married a Feige. (Or a daughter and granddaughter both Feige, or a son
Isak and a granddaughter Feige ...) Here we would assume that David,
Abraham, Sara-Rivka and Nachman would be from the elder Isak and
Hersch-Leib and Sara would be from the younger one. Pinkas could
be either - from the elder by virtue of his age or from the younger based
on when he used the name Isak for his own son. Sara-Rivka's guest
would probably be her first cousin. In this scenario, Isak the uncle
had children over a twenty year period (1823-1842) and died by the mid
1850's, while Isak the nephew had children over a ten year period (~1830-1840)
and lived until at least 1879. Of course, there may be later children
for whom we have no record.
Both of the above possibilities have a problem in that Abraham, Hersch-Leib
and Sara-Rivka are all identified clearly as children of Feige-Minke, not
just Feige. That would seem to require them to be siblings.
(It seems highly unlikely that two Isaks both married Feige-Minke, however
since people often married relatives, it is possible that these two were
cousins, both named Feige-Minke for the same person. I am assuming, nonetheless,
that if there are two couples, only one of the Feiges has the double name.
We could still say that there is only one couple and that the extra registration
is an error. However that would require identifying Sara-Rivka's
guest and we have only one other adult Isak around at that time - Isak-Sam
whose only appearance is in the birth record for his son Schaje Thalenberg
(RavJG family) in 1865.
(We are not concerning ourselves with the inconsistent spellings of
Isak and Feige)
Sources are in italics.
||Birth year House number
|Isak & Feige
conjecture based on given names
||The only documented
descendants are sons
and we don't know
Several children born
|Isak & Feige Minke
||We know descendants
only of one daughter
and there is no Isak
or Feige there
|Isak & Feige
|Isak & Feige
|Isak & Feige
|Isak & Feige Minke
|Isak & Feige
||All we have
here is the birth
At least one of his children
born in 295
|Isak & Taube
first known child 1885
||1. Nachman's first child
was born in 1858,
so the birth year may
be earlier than listed
2. A recently deceased
grandson of Nachman and Sara Rivka says they are siblings.